Comments on: Why Not Save That Photo for Print?

By: Brooke Geery | Extreme Journalist

Brooke Geery | Extreme Journalist — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:34:33 +0000

[...] the attitude is that web content is secondary. While most media outlets now realize the value of their online presence, they are still trying to sell a magazine, (that’s actually another issue all together.) What [...]

By: jamie mcparland

jamie mcparland — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:54:23 +0000

Hey Brooke,
The key is to shoot someone no one gives a shit to see pictures of. So basically call me when you want to take some pictures

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:28:25 +0000

Great read, Jared.

I think a great idea is what Francis wrote above:

“It seems like these days, two sets of pricing would make sense for freelancers submitting content to print publications; one for exclusivity and another that’s open for pre-print releases.”

By: Brooke Geery | Extreme Journalist

Brooke Geery | Extreme Journalist — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:00:02 +0000

[...] The shoot was filled with Jared telling me where to stand and letting me know I “wasn’t shooting the right thing.” As far as I could tell, there was no point when they were actually “doing anything” but I suppose that’s what happens when you shoot something you know very little about. So take that as a note to aspiring action sports photographers. Even when it seems like there is nothing going on, apparently, there is a “correct time to shoot.” Follow the jump for a few more shots from today’s shoot. Hard to believe, but I won’t be saving these for print. [...]

By: JARED/MEDIA/MY 2 CENTS | Defgrip

JARED/MEDIA/MY 2 CENTS | Defgrip — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:45:28 +0000

[...] which discussed photos/content, print magazines and the immediacy of online. I suggest reading Jared’s post before [...]

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:10:32 +0000

Haha! I didn’t realize I had seen those Woodward photos in two places until you just mentioned it!
I think the future of print (in terms of BMX and action sports) is gonna be a big focus on quality. Maybe stuff published less often on better paper? Maybe more unique angles to stories? I think the idea should be to make a bmx magazine people will want to keep and reread over and over again; expect that’s always been what most magazines are going for. I guess I’m thinking something more along the lines of Lodown – less issues in a year and some more time put into design and production.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:33:23 +0000

Simply and eloquently put Jared. Print is in a precarious position right now and unfortunately, most of the publishers are struggling to evolve to the new model, and that model is changing every day.

By: Huckleberry Hart

Huckleberry Hart — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:10:05 +0000

Well put sir. Valid and insightful. Johannes Gutenberg is turning over in his grave.

By: carlito brigante

carlito brigante — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:19:08 +0000

good words.
Action Sport Magazine’s should (by now) realize they are not BREAKING ANY NEWS. What’s the difference if I’ve seen a small version of a photo online, or if i’ve seen 2 video angles in slow motion of the shot. It used to be that the magazine had to come out before the video content of a shot, the video rarely did the photos justice. So we are now at the same cross roads and when you realize video/film in form IS photography you have to now deal with the fact that people have actually seen 24 frames per second of this EXCLUSIVE photo from 2 different angles.

The biggest problem with posting photos online is finding away to properly do them justice. A printed piece of anything still evokes more emotion than a screen, plus in print your complete focus is on this one image. Online, people are generally looking at a photo in a small window with 5 other windows open. Magazines have the power to create their own worlds and display whatever information however they want. I feel a lot of Magazine’s need to stop relying on the idea of being EXCLUSIVE and focus more on the presentation of great content.

Jared is right, it’s basically ALL MEDIA is changing and people can embrace the change or not. But remember Dinosaurs will Die.

By: francis

francis — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:39:30 +0000

I remember seeing those Woodward photos in Dig and thinking back to how I saw a bunch of them on here first. It was the first time I’d ever noticed that situation happen at that scale and initially wasn’t sure how I felt about it. After some thought, I didn’t mind.

Having a second look at them in a tangible medium such as print made me appreciate them a lot more. While seeing them here tamed my case of the gimme gimmes, seeing them in Dig is what actually filled my appetite. Neither viewing harmed the other.

However, I could see how a magazine could get mad if they were to pay for photos thinking it wont be released elsewhere prior to print, since the articles and imagery they create or purchase is the main selling point for their issues. I’d assume that magazines look at themselves as brands, too.

It seems like these days, two sets of pricing would make sense for freelancers submitting content to print publications; one for exclusivity and another that’s open for pre-print releases.

Anyway, great arguments. I can see videographers plagiarizing this post and replacing occurrences of the string “photo” with “video” and “magazine” with “tv show”.